Loyalists Forum

Aerick · 07-07-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mango Jam

I don't know, go ask them.

I was asking it as a hypothetical, to provoke discussion on what I felt was key to the entire debate.

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Originally Posted by Mango Jam

In reality, why are we so worried? Is it that people are sitting around wringing their hands in guilt? I seriously don't get why this can't be let go, give everybody time to cool off.

As in ignore the problem and it will go away? Or, let's revisit it at a later time?

Perhaps you (and others) may have had one or more bad experiences with RCB members (more so than the average poster here), and so you're not too concerned about finding ways to welcome them back. I can empathize with that. In my association with them, however, they appear to be decent people, whose approach hasn't quite "gel'ed" with everyone at times, but whose intent is always to support RSL. I don't feel I have anything to feel guilty about at all. I just believe that this board should be able to accommodate people like that, and it's a bit sad when passionate RSL fans don't feel welcomed here. Agreed, everyone needs to be civil and diplomatic - at least to a certain degree - in order for this type of social structure to work properly. And perhaps I'm idealistic, but I think it can be achieved, and that we should strive to make it so. I'm enthused by Jules' post because of its intent, even though I may disagree with it's proposed solution.

:hippy: (It was really hard for me to use that emoticon, dang hippies...)

Stucki · 07-07-2005, 02:04 PM

Yes, and if we practice it amongst ourselves, perhaps more people will feel welcome here.

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Originally Posted by Aerick

I was asking it as a hypothetical, to provoke discussion on what I felt was key to the entire debate.

As in ignore the problem and it will go away? Or, let's revisit it at a later time?

Perhaps you (and others) may have had one or more bad experiences with RCB members (more so than the average poster here), and so you're not too concerned about finding ways to welcome them back. I can empathize with that. In my association with them, however, they appear to be decent people, whose approach hasn't quite "gel'ed" with everyone at times, but whose intent is always to support RSL. I don't feel I have anything to feel guilty about at all. I just believe that this board should be able to accommodate people like that, and it's a bit sad when passionate RSL fans don't feel welcomed here. Agreed, everyone needs to be civil and diplomatic - at least to a certain degree - in order for this type of social structure to work properly. And perhaps I'm idealistic, but I think it can be achieved, and that we should strive to make it so. I'm enthused by Jules' post because of its intent, even though I may disagree with it's proposed solution.

:hippy: (It was really hard for me to use that emoticon, dang hippies...)

Mango Jam · 07-07-2005, 02:09 PM

No, not 'ignore it and it will go away' but give it time and it will calm down. I just don't understand why it needs to be hashed out every day if they are not ready or are not wanting to come back. The olive branch has been extended, the sorries have been said, just can we please relax and talk about soccer or lint? They have their own forum, they can post here if they want, I will not attack them even though they have dragged me through the dirt in their own house.

Aerick · 07-07-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mango Jam

No, not 'ignore it and it will go away' but give it time and it will calm down. I just don't understand why it needs to be hashed out every day if they are not ready or are not wanting to come back.

May not be a bad idea at all. I'll second that.

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Originally Posted by Mango Jam

The olive branch has been extended, the sorries have been said, just can we please relax and talk about soccer or lint?

In all honestly, I'm not sure I can remember how to post about soccer. Lint, maybe, but not soccer. :upset:

montgjules · 07-07-2005, 02:25 PM

One last thought. This thread was not started to discuss RCB. It was started to discuss how to make everybody feel comfortable here.

People didn't like the idea. Fine. Big deal. I don't care!

If you want to not discuss the RCB, there's only one way to do it: don't do it. Even if you're trying to calm other people down or defend them or defend yourself, discussing it is discussing it. So if you don't want it discussed, don't lecture people on HOW to not discuss it (like I'm doing right now). Don't lecture people on how correct your assessment of the RCB is. Just shut up and let it drop.

And stop turning my threads into confrontations. I feel like I have the right to discuss real issues without them turning into RCB arguments.

RSL Punk · 07-07-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by clarette

For whatever it's worth, I'm not a Loyalist and I don't feel threatened by the fact that this has been the official Loyalist forum or whatever the perception is.

I just want to talk about RSL. Preferably with people who aren't *&^%nuggets like 99% of the BigSoccer forums.

Yeah, what nessie said.

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Mango Jam · 07-07-2005, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by montgjules

I think we owe it to Neil to create a "Loyalists" forum somewhere else, maybe on theloyalists.com or something. The RCBites seem continually offended by their perception that some people consider this forum a Loyalists forum. I don't personally, but I guess some people might.

Well, since the second sentence in your post brought them up, why are we not allowed to think that's who the 'some people' are? I think it's great to try to help others feel comfortable but I cannot control how they feel, nor do I want to. This is a confrontational issue no matter how you try to spin it, fresh wounds and all that.