What is RCB?

[the Bardguy]

Originally Posted by Deuce

I fail to see how any of that is helping your cause.

but you did leave out the emails from Old Ska II threatening to make things worse if i did not reinstate him...
OR did you guys not get those two from him?

As a matter of fact, I did not get those.

Originally Posted by Deuce

Also you left out Old Ska's last PM... you know the one that got him banned... and the explanation as to why I was doing it...
Wait a minute what about the two that came from Ska after he was reinstated that he sent to make sure i knew he was reinstated...

People will make there own decisions based on the way you guys handle yourselves here...

come on guys in the interest of completeness .... let's have it...

I don't have any of those, nor have I seen them at all. If you've got them, please share them or PM them to me.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by the Bardguy

The original PM from Deuce, when he asked us to quit posting, asked us to keep it out of the forum. So, we tried to keep any negative discussion out of the forum.

Umm read the pm again... I think it was after ska said he wanted to take it public that I told him that I did not want to make a circus of it... and you can see his response to that clearly...


Where is the whole conversation..?

[The BiG E.Z.]

[QUOTE=the Bardguy]
We used the other forum to vent our frustrations out on how we perceived that we were being treated here. We thought it was a better alternative to posting our grievances on this forum. QUOTE]

Why is the forum site down now, then?

[the Bardguy]

Originally Posted by mrstucki

I repeat, I think it is great that you want to form a second supporters group. However some of us who were not involved in either attacks from you or were part of the group complaining about those attacks are feeling lied to. I love the energy you guys bring to the game.

By the way you guys could have vented on bigsoccer, that is pretty much what that place is about.

In all seriousness, good luck with your efforts on building the RCB. RSL will be stronger for it, as long as we don't turn into Columbus.

I'm new to soccer fandom. I don't know bigsoccer, this is the only actual forum, other than the new one that RCB started, that I have ever taken the time to be a part of.

[the Bardguy]

[QUOTE=The Moe]

Originally Posted by the Bardguy

We used the other forum to vent our frustrations out on how we perceived that we were being treated here. We thought it was a better alternative to posting our grievances on this forum. QUOTE]

Why is the forum site down now, then?

Because I fail to see how that will be helpful.

[Czar Jake]

Originally Posted by the Bardguy

The original PM from Deuce, when he asked us to quit posting, asked us to keep it out of the forum. So, we tried to keep any negative discussion out of the forum.

I really have enjoyed going to the matches with you guys. In my PM to Jake I told him that it was our initial plan to start the "Loyalists II" or something like that next season at the opposite side of the stadium so that we could help grow the supporters.

However, the way we were treated by some of the people on the board (a very select minority) just speeded up the process. The reason that we hadn't posted links or anything to the cavalier web site is because it simply wasn't ready yet. We had a lot of work to do before we could set it up.

The Loyalists had all sorts of time before they went live. I imagine that the first meetings of the Loyalists were a lot like ours were. We're new, we wanted to cater to a little different fan than the Loyalists did.

We used the other forum to vent our frustrations out on how we perceived that we were being treated here. We thought it was a better alternative to posting our grievances on this forum.

Take what you want from this.

This is great! I think you guys have a great group already and I'd like to stand with you. I just felt bad when I read the stuff on your forum. I can understand if it was just frustrations being taken out, that happens here all the time (ask Spence Checketts).

So let's start from here: The Loyalists want a PG rated group, and The RCB want a PG-13 group. Okay, cool. So let's work together on it all and figure out a way to help each other out, maybe we can all compromise on some things, or maybe we can agree to be completely separate groups. Either way, there should be a good feeling between the two groups, don't you think? Let's work towards that now, instead of causing more problems (which I am guilty of, and I continue to apologize for)

[Aero]

Originally Posted by the Bardguy

We used the other forum to vent our frustrations out on how we perceived that we were being treated here. We thought it was a better alternative to posting our grievances on this forum.

And that wasn't the problem. It was the leak over of that hostility into some of the posts here that started the whole thing. And then the denials that the hostility ever existed which made it look like we were simply making the whole thing up and just badgering you guys over it.

The truth is that you guys got upset because someone asked you to stop making the snide comments about rep you were making every time it got mentioned. And when you refused to just let the whole thing go and continued to act like children, you were asked to leave. And you didn't like it. So, you started you own little group in secret while you continued on in your hostility towards people here, even when asked about it so that it could be taken care of. All I've wanted all along was some open dialogue so that things could be taken care of and discussed in a mature manner that would have allowed us to solve things. But you guys didn't want to do that for whatever reason. It seemed you were more intent on letting it simmer.

I'd still actually like to get things cleared up and now that things are out in the open, maybe we can. But it won't happen until you guys can admit that the problem exists and that you have some responsibility for it. If you keep trying to blame it on others without taking any responsibility yourselves, nothing is ever going to be resolved. Don't you guys want to resolve this and move on to bigger and better things?

[the Bardguy]

Originally Posted by Aero

Their forum was up for less than a day before they started deleting their own posts.

It was up from the day that we got the PM from Deuce.

Originally Posted by Aero

I think it was asked once on the forum, are you honest in your dealings with your fellow man? Interesting question.

Grooaaannn. That was meant totally as a joke.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by the Bardguy

I can't respond for others. I'm trying to give you my perspective. I know very little of goertha, so I'm sorry if he comes of as abrasive.

We did a good job of not making that information from Deuce public. However, because of the "investigative work," I felt I had to get it out there in order to show you where we are coming from.

I will be happy to share those... are you guys especially ska sure that you want me too?

as for the statement that where you are coming from is from my PM'ing you....

Go back a little further to ask why I had to PM you in the first place...

[the Bardguy]

Originally Posted by Deuce

I will be happy to share those... are you guys especially ska sure that you want me too?

as for the statement that where you are coming from is from my PM'ing you....

Go back a little further to ask why I had to PM you in the first place...

As far as I know, your PM came in response to the "increase the rep" thread. If I am mistaken, please let me know. I did ask that you share with me people's complaints with me, and I never did get a response.