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[Section 37]

Originally Posted by Dadof3

True
How is the stadium not a tourist project...won't there be games that appeal to those from outside the state (US nats)...won't the image of the area be improved by this beautiful stadium being shown on the national stage?
NO question about it...

I think the national games are the only thing that counts as "tourist". But even those are not great tourist projects.

About 37% of the spectators at last years W.C.Q. at Rice Eccles were from out of state. So I guess we can figure we'll get that many at future events. (but fewer in number because of smaller stadium)

But that's also one time number. There won't be enough visitors year round to really generate a lot of growth in the area beyond what the locals can do. Without a steady stream, it won't be a very nice place to visit from out of state.

[Section 37]

Originally Posted by Aero

Where are people going to park downtown? They'll need some more land for a parking structure that will not be used much when the stadium isn't being used. You can factor in at least $10 million more just to buy a half-block of land for that. Unless you feel that the parking facilities downtown are already adequate for handling stadium parking.

They don't need to build parking facilities downtown. There is plenty of parking. Downtown has spent years accomodating crowds for everything fromt the All Star Game to Festival of Trees.

[Aero]

Originally Posted by Section 37

They don't need to build parking facilities downtown. There is plenty of parking. Downtown has spent years accomodating crowds for everything fromt the All Star Game to Festival of Trees.

You think you can just add a 20,000 seat stadium downtown and not add any additional parking? That right there tells me that you aren't rationally thinking about things and are driven by your personal desire for a downtown stadium.

What about the rest of the points in my post and the proof that blackmail is happening?

[Aerick]

I'm loving this debate!! Yeah baby!

Aero/Deuce, I think you're winning. But I'm kinda biased. 😁

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by Aerick

I'm loving this debate!! Yeah baby!

Aero/Deuce, I think you're winning. But I'm kinda biased. 😁

Thanks but I think Aero is winning... I dropped out of the argument and besides that I already messed up Aero's argument by inadvertantly editing out part of it, yet he is still acting like a shark on plasma overload!


I am like Brad Friedel... I am good for one major screw up in every game!

[Aerick]

I'm also glad the Hotel Tax issue fell by the wayside, because that appears to be a non-issue. The hotels will pass on the tax to their customers, and the only fear they need to have is that it may force potential customers away to competition. Because all of SLCounty will have the extra tax, that's not going to occur locally, and I doubt that they'll lose customers to Colorado, Idaho or Nevada due to the tax just because instead of having to shell out $200 for their stay originally, they are now having to shell out an extra $3!
:jawdrop:

[Section 37]

Originally Posted by Aero

You think you can just add a 20,000 seat stadium downtown and not add any additional parking? That right there tells me that you aren't rationally thinking about things and are driven by your personal desire for a downtown stadium.

But that's not how parking downtown works. That's how it works in the suburbs, but parking downtown depends on staggered events and private parking lots. It always has. So my short answer is there is no need for another parking structure to accomodate a small stadium.

Originally Posted by Aero

What about the rest of the points in my post and the proof that blackmail is happening?

Surely you jest. This is in every story about the stadium. SLCo is constantly complaining about the pressure they're getting from the Legislature while the legislature insists it's the county's money to do with as they please. They're not both right. Mayor Corroon's re- election is far from certain and the legislature is holding this over his head.

[Deuce]

Originally Posted by Section 37

SLCo is constantly complaining about the pressure they're getting from the Legislature
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Mayor Corroon's re- election is far from certain and the legislature is holding this over his head.

It puts the lotion on its skin or it gets the hose again....

[Aerick]

AWESOME DEUCE!!!!!!!!!

😁 😁

[Aero]

Originally Posted by Section 37

But that's not how parking downtown works. That's how it works in the suburbs, but parking downtown depends on staggered events and private parking lots. It always has. So my short answer is there is no need for another parking structure to accomodate a small stadium.

Small stadium? It would be bigger than the Delta Center.

Apparently, the people in charge disagree with you because a parking structure of some sort was part of the initial plan downtown. I have a hard time imagining them even considering such an expensive proposition if it were not needed.

Surely you jest. This is in every story about the stadium.

Then I guess you'll have no problem finding the proof, will you.

And that doesn't even begin to address the numerous other points I made that you are still ignoring.

Just some food for thought, here is an example of extra costs not taken into account with the original $20 million to buy the block:

And Anderson, who was out of town Tuesday, recently said that block is still the "best" option downtown, though the city is looking at other sites.
Ensign said he wasn't aware the city was still interested, and he believes Holding still could be willing to sell.
"I think Mr. Holding would still honor that commitment if they want to go ahead," he said, adding that the original $20 million price tag would jump because the improvements now under way include landscaping.
However, Ensign added, "It wouldn't be a lot more expensive."
The block is already too costly for the city. While Holding owns most of the land, the biggest hurdle is the expense of the Mark Miller Toyota property. The city would have to relocate the dealership and buy additional property used by Mark Miller just south of Block 22.
http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?article=2725978

Any downtown site would have had extra expenses like this. It wouldn't have been cheap to move a car dealership someplace else. It would end up costing the county a lot more than $20 million to put a stadium downtown and they wouldn't be getting anywhere near the value for their money that they would be getting out of Sandy.

Again, I ask, don't you believe that Uncle Dave would build downtown in a heartbeat if it was even slightly viable? He wanted it downtown as much or more than anyone.