Rock bottom Salt Lake

fuegote · 08-30-2006, 10:13 AM

In the history of this message board has any poster come off as this patronizing. so far you "no" more than anyone in soccer and now in youth sociology. We have the anti ska right here folks. (nothing but love for you ska, skadamnit)

But today is not about me, Hire "blowmynose"!

clarette · 08-30-2006, 10:20 AM

Where's the rocket science when we need him?

bordelais7 · 08-30-2006, 10:25 AM

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I think your picture of the average person in France is wrong. First, the average person in France is more and more not French. They are refuges from North Africa. These guys loved the game but didn't have a very sophisticated knowledge of the game. Great foot skills, but teamwork was the last thing on their minds.

Gee. Kids with a limited concept of teamwork. Reminds me of Jr. Jazz.

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Second, unlike America the Average person in France takes a broad range of sports in school, but doesn't play in organized sports league. Only the above average athletes play organized fut (as they call it on the streets).

Actually, they call it "foot". And not just on the streets. And only above average athletes play organized sports in any culture. That's generally how it works. Kids without the skills generally gravitate to other interests.

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Next, you have to realize that the American and German girls that were at this camp were the only girls that could give a leap about sports. The French girls were mostly concern with makeup and jewelry beyond what you would know in the US. Again, the average guy was also much more interested in arranging meetings with the average french girls than playing the sport.

So now you're saying that the French are leaders in fashion and love? Wow. Insightful.

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If you want to continue this discussion, I'm going to kick you butt in this area.

Well, I've been "wowed" so far, so bring it on.

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You may (possibly) have more soccer knowledge, but this sort of sociology is very much a part of my professional training. I can start digging up studies but don't call me out in this area.

Let's see 'em.

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I spend a lot of time with youth from all over the world, especially France, Italy and Spain.

I don't want to pull a "knowwonnose" on you, and attempt to impress you with my pedigree, but for the record, I've spent more time in Mâcon than you have. Just in case you're wondering 😉

Old Ska · 08-30-2006, 12:14 PM

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...refuges from North Africa. These guys loved the game but didn't have a very sophisticated knowledge of the game. Great foot skills, but teamwork was the last thing on their minds.

And they can sing and are great dancers too, right? And no black guy should ever be an American football QB, they aren't smart enough for it.

Get a clue.

ReAl · 08-30-2006, 12:25 PM

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And they can sing and are great dancers too, right? And no black guy should ever be an American football QB, they aren't smart enough for it.

Get a clue.

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knowwonnose · 08-30-2006, 01:06 PM

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And they can sing and are great dancers too, right? And no black guy should ever be an American football QB, they aren't smart enough for it.

Get a clue.

I'm really sorry people. Please note that I edited my original post. I don't want anyone to think that I was speaking derogatively about the non-black North Africans. I think the world of them. I hope that you can forgive my poor choice of words. http://www.realsaltlake.org/forums/showpost.php?p=60990&postcount=120

bordelais7 · 08-30-2006, 01:19 PM

I wonder how good the French National team could be if they were able to actually develop the soccer culture amongst the Arab and African communities in France. Then they wouldn't have to rely on the raw, selfish talents of the likes of Zidane, Henry, Thuram, Vieira, Desailly, Gallas, Makelele, Govou, Cissé, Wiltord......

prk166 · 08-30-2006, 01:23 PM

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Prk-n-Ride, I appreciate your positive word. The thing that I can't seem to make clear is that I'm not an optimist. I'm a realist. I don't have a love affair with Ellinger. I believe that a coach for any expansion club deserve time. 2 full years is a short as I'll go. I think there are some point of success that Ellinger has achieved in the last 1.67 years.

I agree with this but only to a point. I think it's correct to be paitent if he's building a team. But in glancing at RSL's roster compared to other teams, I'm not sure how much building is going on since they have a lot of guys that are 29 - 34. At what point does it go from building a team to he's just trying to buy time?

knowwonnose · 08-30-2006, 01:37 PM

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I agree with this but only to a point. I think it's correct to be paitent if he's building a team. But in glancing at RSL's roster compared to other teams, I'm not sure how much building is going on since they have a lot of guys that are 29 - 34. At what point does it go from building a team to he's just trying to buy time?

That's reasonable, but if I was starting a team, I wouldn't want all 25 and younger. I'd put some vets in the lineup to coach them along. Notice, Chivas is the same sort of split: very young with very old.

AreliusIV · 08-30-2006, 06:58 PM

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I agree with this but only to a point. I think it's correct to be paitent if he's building a team. But in glancing at RSL's roster compared to other teams, I'm not sure how much building is going on since they have a lot of guys that are 29 - 34. At what point does it go from building a team to he's just trying to buy time?

Average age of RSL: 26.